If you haven't got a graduate training place, but are desperate to work in banking, will an MSc help you get what you want?
YES, if…
You studied a non-finance degree. If you graduated (or will graduate) in English literature or geography, an MSc in a finance-related subject shows you're keen. "It shows your commitment to the industry," says Julia Barbour, a consultant at finance recruitment firm Cornell Partnership. "You'll be on more solid ground when it's finished."
You have no finance-related work experience. Most students from Continental Europe have both an MSc and financial services work experience. The MSc won't do anything about the work experience but it will make you their academic equal.
You apply to the right school. Plenty of universities offer financial services MScs, but banks only hire from a few of them, and then only from favoured courses. The best universities and courses for a finance-related MSc include:
• the MSc in Finance at Imperial College's Tanaka Business School or its more specialist MSc in Risk Management and Financial Engineering
• the MSc in Financial Mathematics at Warwick
• the Masters in Financial Economics at Oxford University's Said Business School
• the MPhil in Finance at Judge Business School in Cambridge
• the MSc in Finance at the London School of Economics
Cass Business School also offers a number of MSc courses, which are viewed quite favourably by banks. And Reading University's ICMA Centre offers a very wide range of specialist programmes, plus its more general flagship MSc in International Securities, Investment and Banking.
You want to go into financial markets (rather than corporate finance). "The increased complexity of financial products means there's likely to be on-going demand for candidates with qualifications like an MSc," says Malcolm Horton, head of European graduate recruitment and development for Lehman Brothers.
You want to work in a hedge fund. As small organisations, hedge funds don't have the training resources of larger banks and are therefore keen on MSc students. "They will only take people with an MSc because they've had the technical training," says Lindsay Bortoluzzi, head of postgraduate employment at Cass Business School in London.
NO, if…
You got a low 2.2 in your first degree. Most big American bulge-bracket banks will discount anyone without a 2.1 degree, even if they have an MSc. However, some European banks will entertain applications from students who have strong A levels and were predicted a 2.1 but didn't quite make it. Unfortunately, they won't go on the record saying who they are. However, a graduate recruiter at one large European bank says, "A 2.1 is not a make or break for us, so an MSc can help. But we are in the minority."
You're innumerate. It's no good doing an MSc if you have the mathematical aptitude of Paris Hilton (who may well be a whiz at stochastic analysis for all we know). But if your maths is that bad you may not get onto an MSc course in the first place.
You want to be a quant. If you fancy being a quant, you're better off going straight into a PhD. Several banks, including JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley, offer specific entry positions for candidates with PhDs in maths, physics or other quantitative disciplines.
You plan to skip the first few years of training and come in at a higher level. You may have forked out many thousands of pounds and studied finance for a whole year, but after doing an MSc most banks will treat you just the same as a graduate with a Bachelor's degree. It's a sad truth, but with banks getting 30 to 40 applications for each analyst they have no need to treat MSc applicants any differently.
You're doing it as a filler and are not sure what you really want to do. "An MSc is a good thing, but what really matters is your motivation and your communication skills," says Lucy Evans, a graduate recruiter at ABN AMRO. "You won't be better equipped if you don't know what you want at the end of the year."
Many thanks for this great amount of info.
I have a 2.2 Engineering degree and another MSc from UCL in Engineering, which makes me quant. However, I am considering taking an MSc in finance at Tanaka and if this does not really improve my chances of selection and competition after £20k then should I even bother?
Thanks again!
Personally, I would say that you should also consider the CFA accredited degrees. There are 6 in the UK:
University of Exeter, Xfi Centre for Finance and Investment (Exeter, UK)
M.Sc. in Finance in Financial Analysis and Fund Management
University of Leicester (Leicester, UK)
M.Sc. in Financial Economics
London Business School (London, United Kingdom)
Masters in Finance
The University of Oxford's Saïd Business School (Oxford, UK)
M.Sc. in Financial Economics
University of Reading, ICMA Centre (Reading, United Kingdom)
MSc in Investment Management
University of Warwick (Coventry, UK)
M.Sc. in Economics and Finance
M.Sc. in Finance
I’m coming to the end of my MSc at one of these universities with a CFA scholarship and, most importantly, a job.
All of you who are thinking of studying Masters level courses should make sure you know what youa re getting yourself in for and make sure as far as possible you will enjoy the course content
Add your comment »Thanks for a great article - I went to city uni and did a banking degree, narrowly missing out on a 2:1 - I then worked on the Equity Sales desk at a top tier american investment bank for 3 years before deciding to do a 4year accelerated Medicine degree. I graduated last year and am now at the stage where I'd love to try and combine my healthcare knowledge with my banking knowledge. Am thinking of doing a Msc in Finance from Cass - will this be a good way in to an entry level role into say Equity Research? All comments appreciated!
Add your comment »Why come back into banking after a year medical degree. If you wanted to work as a equity research analyst there were better ways then doing a 4 year MBBS. I suggest you become a doctor you will earn more than in equity research
Add your comment »Hi Everyone, just wanted your opinion.
I am a Middlesex University undergraduate business student and have just completed a 1 yr work placement. I will be graduating next year and will start applying for I-Bank graduate schemes from Oct.
As an international student paying higher tuition fees, will it really help in getting a job in the I-Bank industry after completing an MSc from the above mentioned universities , i.e if i dont get into a graduate scheme for next yr?
Does anyone know how the MSc in Investments at Birmingham is regarded by employers?
Add your comment »Hi everyone,
I got a MSc in Computing, and I am going to get an IT job. As a long time career, my aim is to be a quant analyst, so I guess I need to strengthen my knowledge of financial mathematics. I am not sure whether I should take another MSc related to financial mathematics as part time basis, or just self-study and take the exams like CFA/FSA.
Any suggestions are more than welcome!
Hello everyone.
I got offered a place for the MSc in Finance at Warwick and Tanaka, but i don't know which to choose.
Anybody knows which one is better?
Hi everyone,
I am finishing my BSc in International Economics and Management at the top business school in Italy, with the equivalent of a good 2:1.
Having decided to do my finance-related MSc in UK, I've been lucky enough to get accepted in all universities I've applied to so far, here they are:
MSc Finance, University of Warwick;
MSc Finance, Manchester Business School;
MSc Investment Management, ICMA Centre, U. of Reading;
MSc Investment Management, CASS Business School
I should add that a job in investment banking is not necessarily my first choice, on the contrary, I'd rather work for an asset management company, salaries are still high enough to make a decent living without working 15-20 hours a day. Given this, I think the first two, Warwick and Manchester would be more indicated for a job in IB.
My first choice up to now would be CASS, given its high exposure to the City environment, Inv Mgmt in Reading is CFA accredited though, and I wonder how much that can add to the MSc.
I would very much appreciate your opinions.
Thank you very much