If you haven't got a graduate training place, but are desperate to work in banking, will an MSc help you get what you want?
YES, if…
You studied a non-finance degree. If you graduated (or will graduate) in English literature or geography, an MSc in a finance-related subject shows you're keen. "It shows your commitment to the industry," says Julia Barbour, a consultant at finance recruitment firm Cornell Partnership. "You'll be on more solid ground when it's finished."
You have no finance-related work experience. Most students from Continental Europe have both an MSc and financial services work experience. The MSc won't do anything about the work experience but it will make you their academic equal.
You apply to the right school. Plenty of universities offer financial services MScs, but banks only hire from a few of them, and then only from favoured courses. The best universities and courses for a finance-related MSc include:
• the MSc in Finance at Imperial College's Tanaka Business School or its more specialist MSc in Risk Management and Financial Engineering
• the MSc in Financial Mathematics at Warwick
• the Masters in Financial Economics at Oxford University's Said Business School
• the MPhil in Finance at Judge Business School in Cambridge
• the MSc in Finance at the London School of Economics
Cass Business School also offers a number of MSc courses, which are viewed quite favourably by banks. And Reading University's ICMA Centre offers a very wide range of specialist programmes, plus its more general flagship MSc in International Securities, Investment and Banking.
You want to go into financial markets (rather than corporate finance). "The increased complexity of financial products means there's likely to be on-going demand for candidates with qualifications like an MSc," says Malcolm Horton, head of European graduate recruitment and development for Lehman Brothers.
You want to work in a hedge fund. As small organisations, hedge funds don't have the training resources of larger banks and are therefore keen on MSc students. "They will only take people with an MSc because they've had the technical training," says Lindsay Bortoluzzi, head of postgraduate employment at Cass Business School in London.
NO, if…
You got a low 2.2 in your first degree. Most big American bulge-bracket banks will discount anyone without a 2.1 degree, even if they have an MSc. However, some European banks will entertain applications from students who have strong A levels and were predicted a 2.1 but didn't quite make it. Unfortunately, they won't go on the record saying who they are. However, a graduate recruiter at one large European bank says, "A 2.1 is not a make or break for us, so an MSc can help. But we are in the minority."
You're innumerate. It's no good doing an MSc if you have the mathematical aptitude of Paris Hilton (who may well be a whiz at stochastic analysis for all we know). But if your maths is that bad you may not get onto an MSc course in the first place.
You want to be a quant. If you fancy being a quant, you're better off going straight into a PhD. Several banks, including JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley, offer specific entry positions for candidates with PhDs in maths, physics or other quantitative disciplines.
You plan to skip the first few years of training and come in at a higher level. You may have forked out many thousands of pounds and studied finance for a whole year, but after doing an MSc most banks will treat you just the same as a graduate with a Bachelor's degree. It's a sad truth, but with banks getting 30 to 40 applications for each analyst they have no need to treat MSc applicants any differently.
You're doing it as a filler and are not sure what you really want to do. "An MSc is a good thing, but what really matters is your motivation and your communication skills," says Lucy Evans, a graduate recruiter at ABN AMRO. "You won't be better equipped if you don't know what you want at the end of the year."
hi everyone-2nd yr undergraduate at warwick- i reckon i will get a 2:2. I havent got an internship- any suggestions on what I could do this summer to be more valuable to a bank?
Add your comment »I owe a bachelors degree in Geography from a prestigious african university, and has gulped about 5 years experience in the the african banking sector.
presently 'm starting an Msc in finance and investment mgt. university of hertfordshire and preparing to write the level 1 CFA programme, also i have in the pastr couple of years succeeded in bagging a Professional certificate from the New york institute of finance.
All these in preparation to get on the summer associate intern. programme of a prestigious financial institution as an investment banking intern come summer of 2008 . What are my chances like?
Do you know if in the new French system a Master 1(4th year) corresponds to a MSc or not?
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Hello can anyone offer me advice? I recently completed an MSc in Business Finance at Brunel and i find it difficult to get work in the financial services field. i would like to get into Investment Banking but lack the work experience. I even tried applying for admin roles in investment banks to get my foot in the door but no luck!!! i am wondering if i should have done CFA instead. would my situation be any better if i did do you think?
I am now starting to apply for internships so hopefully that would yield more positive results.
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i'm gonna do a BSC Hons in Business Information Technology at south bank university in london, i really wanna work in banking or financial area,and i need some advise please.
I just wanna know if a Bsc is enought to get into that area or will i need to do my Msc in order to have more chance to work in banking or financial area??!
Please help me...specially people who are doing the same degree as me or people who already have that degree..;thank you in advance...idrissa
i have been accepted for Warwick MSc Finance degree. I will complete my BSc in Accounting and Finance from London School of economics this summer. I would like to mention here that since i live in Pakistan my undergrad degree is an external degree. I want to make a career in investment banking. Please tell me given my academic backgroud, what are my chances of landing with top banks in UK. I have also done internship in Citibank and in the finance department of an oil refinery in my home country.
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I did a certicate in management,diploma in management(banking and finance) and finished successful which is a requirement for Leicester University in order to go on their MBA.
Am now doing the MBA but i did a first degree as well but had some hardships and got a third class degree at london met university.
The certicate and the diploma which is a post-graduate diploma are both Leicester university and they are the ones that i used to enrol on the MBA .
After finishing the Mba,can i compete favourably with those students who got like a 2.1 degree and did an MBA.
My Degree is Banking with economics and Law and MBA is finance.
What do you think how MSc in Banking and International Finance at Cass is regarded by top banks?
Add your comment »Hi everyone! I was wondering what is the better degree to do at the ICMA centre in Reading the Msc in Investment Management or the International Securities and Banking. Furthermore which is the most benifcial in terms of employment in the City?
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