Mervyn King has weighed in on the bonus debate. The guvnor says big payouts have encouraged too many talented people to squander their lives in banking when they could have been doing something more constructive instead.
King made his comments to the Treasury Select Committee.
According to the Telegraph, King says young people look at City compensation packages and think they “dominate almost any other type of career ... It's not a very attractive situation that such a high proportion of our talented young people naturally look at the City and think it is the only place to work in. It shouldn't be. It should be one of the places, but not the only one.”
Talented yoof confirm Merv’s fears. One Cambridge student confesses that he might think of doing a medical PhD or going into the voluntary sector were it not for the fact that he’s leaving university with a £15k overdraft and needs the cash.
“During my gap year I worked at Pizza Hut and earned £200 pounds a week. As a summer intern in an investment bank I’ll be earning £700 pounds a week. There’s no comparison,” he says.
“Put bluntly, yes, people do go into investment banking for the money,” confirms Gordon Chesterman, head of the Cambridge University Careers Service. “But we do work hard to promote a wide variety of other careers.”
Bonuses may not need to be reformed to put students off – mass redundancies should be a more effective deterrent.
However, they don’t seem to have had an impact yet. Martin Birchall, director of High Fliers Research, a company which monitors top students’ career aspirations, says a record number of students want to go into investment banking this year: “Despite all the problems in the City, it's still as desirable as ever.”
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Interesting comments all round.
I have worked in IB for the last 6 years. All I would add is don't assume the last few crazy years are actually steady state.
Put "Henry's" numbers in context - he worked in a hot (probably the hottest area) in the hottest time and was a Tier 1. What do you think the guys doing the dotcom IPOs were making?
Where I think he has gone off the reservation is in thinking he will continue to get paid like this. Guys let me tell you, the last few years were an aberration. First year analysts do not generally make 150% base.
Lastly to "Henry" - I think you are lying.
On the basis of the numbers you provided, from 2004 - 2007, your girlfriend and yourself made a total of 674,000 - pre-tax. With tax of say 30% (more like 40% but maybe you have some student loans to offset) that would be c.475,000. With a 15% deposit (as you said), then 180,000 went on deposit. That leaves 295,000 for your mortgage.
Hence for you to actually have paid that much off your mortgage, you would have needed to use every single penny of your joint earnings, paid no interest and gone on zero 5* holidays...
...pull the other one mate....
"The circumstances of lesser people mean absolutely nothing compared to my goals. Why on earth would I want to waste time helping other people when I can better myself? I'm not going to feel good about helping others when the opportunity cost is a 6-figure bonus (which will be 7 by the time I'm 28). There is no greater feeling than performing head and shoulders above your rivals / competition / peers."
Henry, there's nothing wrong with being competitive, hardworking and ambitious, but you're beginning to sound EVIL.....
I once said to my dad that my goal is to make more money than him. My father - a MD in a BB firm, told me that in life there are a lot other meaningful things to do other than make a lot of money, while apart from achieve things, whats equally important is to be a good human being.
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I am a student thinking about applying to Cambridge to study Economics, I have carried out research in relation to city jobs, in particular, investment analysis roles. I don't believe bonuses are a bad thing for students as they motivate young academics in their studies and to become involved in extra cirricular activities, standing one in good stead for future life.
I believe the purpose of life is to provide first and foremostly for the immediate circle of family, secondly to donate around 10% of income to good causes.
One factor what people despise about city workers are Henry, why get a first class education?; find a wife?; and have kids?; just to come and taunt people about his salary on a careers website?; seems nuts to me when he has the perfect scenario.
The comments about material objects are correct, people want status but why?
Also totally un-related - BAN ALCOHOL!!!