Mervyn King has weighed in on the bonus debate. The guvnor says big payouts have encouraged too many talented people to squander their lives in banking when they could have been doing something more constructive instead.
King made his comments to the Treasury Select Committee.
According to the Telegraph, King says young people look at City compensation packages and think they “dominate almost any other type of career ... It's not a very attractive situation that such a high proportion of our talented young people naturally look at the City and think it is the only place to work in. It shouldn't be. It should be one of the places, but not the only one.”
Talented yoof confirm Merv’s fears. One Cambridge student confesses that he might think of doing a medical PhD or going into the voluntary sector were it not for the fact that he’s leaving university with a £15k overdraft and needs the cash.
“During my gap year I worked at Pizza Hut and earned £200 pounds a week. As a summer intern in an investment bank I’ll be earning £700 pounds a week. There’s no comparison,” he says.
“Put bluntly, yes, people do go into investment banking for the money,” confirms Gordon Chesterman, head of the Cambridge University Careers Service. “But we do work hard to promote a wide variety of other careers.”
Bonuses may not need to be reformed to put students off – mass redundancies should be a more effective deterrent.
However, they don’t seem to have had an impact yet. Martin Birchall, director of High Fliers Research, a company which monitors top students’ career aspirations, says a record number of students want to go into investment banking this year: “Despite all the problems in the City, it's still as desirable as ever.”
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"How sad it is that you only goal and focus is increasing your wealth. Is that what you've worked for? Because, if it is, you lead a very empty life."
Really? Yes, I use wealth and assets as a very good indicator of success. As do a lot of the country's finest people, like Theo from Dragons Den. How does that mean I'm living an "empty life"? My life is more fulfilled than anyone's I know, precisely because I have the money to experience the finer things in life, and make the most of my free time partaking in wine-tasting, art galleries, fine restaurants et al, whilst the teaching and accountancy losers sit at home watching Coronation Street and Eastenders.
My life is superior to my peers, and there's nothing wrong with telling the world that.
"PE" ... why are you even on this website ? !Surely the content is far too materialistic for someone of your moral standards?
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Henry - you seem to be a successful and happy chap. Well done. You also seem to be a totally materialistic, shallow, egotistical and pretentious individual. Well done. If you are happy living your life with this attitude then fine - just don't speak to me because I will hurt you. I consider myself to be successful and my earnings are actually more than yours. However, I certainly do not go through life with your attitude and do not consider teachers and accountants to be losers.
Add your comment »Trading is not the only field where you can make decent money. There are a lot of "accountancy losers" as well as people in management, law, operations and strategy that achieve a comparable lifestlye, granted in their early 30s rather than mid-20s, but then again they didn't spend their youth waking up at 5:30 and working 60 hour weeks.
Henry you sound like you picked your gf for her ability to contribute to your housing loan :-)
"Really? Yes, I use wealth and assets as a very good indicator of success. As do a lot of the country's finest people, like Theo from Dragons Den. How does that mean I'm living an "empty life"? My life is more fulfilled than anyone's I know, precisely because I have the money to experience the finer things in life, and make the most of my free time partaking in wine-tasting, art galleries, fine restaurants et al, whilst the teaching and accountancy losers sit at home watching Coronation Street and Eastenders".
Henry, if THIS is what Cambridge has taught you then you deserve nothing less than to be thrown in the Thames with weights attached to your feet. YOU BRAT!!!
If Henry is for real, how come he keeps coming back to check out this website. Surely he can use his time more efficiently by purchasing himself a personality somewhere. Put simply, not many bankers have got enough time at there disposal to rebutt every point made on chat space.
Add your comment »Tarquin - It's my attitude that has helped make me an extremely successful person at what I do, having no qualms about screwing other people over to achieve my goals.
MI - I wake up later than 5.30am, and work less than 60 hour weeks. Another stupid stereotype.
Bobby Brown - I'm a trader. This means I have busy periods and amongst them plenty of time I can do what I want when my positions are sailing. The idea that bankers haven't got enough time because they're perpetually too busy is another incorrect stereotype. In M&A maybe, but in trading the time you spend glued to a Reuters screen has little if any correlation with your P&L.
ps. HOORAH BORIS! So happy to wake up this morning to a Tory London. Tories - the only party that support ambition and the desire for financial / material success, and not be critical of people achieving high personal goals like some of you losers above.
Let Henry be: he is probably doing what he is best at.
One question out of curiosity though: why is Henry keen to bring children into this world where they will be taught and surrounded by 'losers' as statistically wealth is concentrated in one gender and perhaps 1 - 2 % of the population ?
I can understand the frustration felt by many who embark on challenging careers and who perhaps do not see the financial reward. I respect and admire people who can pursue their dreams when there is no financial incentive.
My family are made up of doctors, lawyers, bankers, accountants, nurses, NGO specialists and politicians. Having graduated with my masters I simply felt that I wanted a challenging career with a high pay-off. My quantitative abilities coupled to my ability to communicate lead me to believe I could be most useful in the front office and I haven't looked back since. I have now completed three years of exotic rates structuring and still love my job. I studied hard to get where I am, and I made a decision based upon sound reasoning, applying my skills set to an industry suited to my interests. And yet, I feel castigated daily by my peer group and the media. Any banker will tell you the same, we all chose this industry for the callenge and the pay, otherwise we would have become politicians, doctors, nurses or NGO specialists. The fact of the matter is that once we recieve a basic level of higher education, we all have a choice.
Sky News interviewed Boris Johnson's father and sister yesterday, and they said that the reason he's been so successful is because of his classical education and Eton upbringing - "when you can learn ancient Greek by age 9, you can do anything". The £24k/yr for Eton is well worth it to get ahead in life.
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