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You didn’t get a graduate place, but still desperately want a job in banking. What can you do? Well, there’s always:

Accounting

When they can’t find any suitably qualified junior bankers (ie, when times are good), banks have been known to take ACAs from the Big Four accounting firms and put them into banking roles.

Jane Clark, EMEA head of campus recruiting for Merrill Lynch, says banks’ leveraged finance, credit analysis and compliance departments all hire from accounting firms. In our experience, so do their corporate finance and equity research teams.

“Any experience with significant projects for big clients is going to be good. Tax and actuarial backgrounds are particularly useful,” says Clark.

The bad news is that accounting isn’t a guaranteed route to banking success – if things remain as they are, banks will have no need of hiring ex-accountants. And it’s no use becoming an accountant if you have a 2:ii in English Literature from an obscure institution: banks still won’t want you.

“University is important,” says Clark. “A 2:ii will not look that good.”

An MSc

If you study an MSc you’ll get another go at applying to banks once it’s finished, and might be able to do an internship before it starts.

It’s only worth doing an MSc in finance at a few institutions: the LSE, Warwick, or Cambridge are preferred.

Don’t be fooled into thinking that a Masters is the answer to academic shortcomings, cautions Brian Hood, head of graduate recruitment at Citi. “Generally a Masters does not compensate for a 2:ii,” he says.

Temping

Temping might get you in the back door – but it’s only realistic for back or middle-office jobs like settlements or money laundering.

Alex Niarchos, associate director of banking operations temping at recruitment firm Joslin Rowe, says front-office temping jobs come up every now and then: “We placed one person last year into a junior trading role at a smaller bank, because they needed someone with two or three European languages,” he says. “We found them a graduate with an internship and German, French and Italian.”

Sometimes banks who are having difficulties recruiting in a particular field will decide to hire graduate temps instead and train them up. “Derivatives are still being highly traded at the moment. If banks can’t find experienced people, some will take on graduates,” he says.

Niarchos says he’s usually looking for people with a 2:i or 2:ii in a finance-related degree, who can demonstrate that they have some understanding of banking processes. An internship is very helpful, as is in-depth knowledge of Excel – the ability to build macros, as opposed to just filling cells.

Off-cycle hiring

Very occasionally, banks will hire people outside their usual recruitment cycle – usually because jobs come up unexpectedly. Given the circumstances, this seems fairly unlikely right now.

Clark says: “We take on a handful of graduates each year off-cycle, if there’s a need in a specific business area. They may be helping with local research or need knowledge of a particular country,” she says.

These positions are usually advertised via career services, so it pays to stay in touch with yours, even after you’ve graduated.

Professional exams

It will also help if you study some professional exams. Niarchos says: “You need a CV that looks busy. Take some professional exams, IMC or IAQ. Anything that shows you aren’t just sitting on your bum.”

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Fresh Grad, Student,  Fri 06 Jun 08

With regards to the temping route, from what I have gathered via some contact with recruitment agencies is that fresh graduates with limited experience are in abit of a catch 22 situation; you cant get a temping job without experience, and you cant gain experience without a temping job (assuming you didnt attain a graduate scheme placement).

So, whats one to do with little experience as it seems to be that graduates cant get into temping easily without experience.

Also, it would be helpful if

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CC, Student,  Fri 06 Jun 08

What about CASS and their MSc's???

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Anonymous,  Fri 06 Jun 08

Is the Oxford MFE a good option for an MSc? How would this compare to the courses you have mentioned including LSE, Cambridge and Warwick?

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Derivatives_Guy,  Fri 06 Jun 08

I totally agree with Fresh Grad - It is a catch 22 situation, agencies do not want to know you if you do not have any experience. One thing I must say, is do not be put off by all the people on this site who try and put people down. Yes banks do look for a certain type of individual, but if you are determined you will get in. There are so many different routes, just be creative.

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Michael, Student,  Sat 07 Jun 08

CC, I've heard employers love Cass degrees, when I worked at one of the premier investment banks in the City, they always sent their trainees who wanted more financial expertise to Cass. It's seen by employers to be more practical than LSE, however less academic, so Cass is probably your best option for employment and LSE your best option for going on to do a PHD.

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Belinda Walmsley - Joslin Rowe, HR & Recruitment,  Mon 09 Jun 08

It's true (and very frustrating) that it can be a catch 22. We would always recommend that graduates with no work experience at all are better off applying directly. This is because if banks are using agencies they are using them to supply a certain skill set for a specific vacancy and therefore have more complex requirements - the kind that can only be met once someone has a basic level of knowledge gained through work experience.

However, if you do have even a few weeks experience within an investment bank or better yet an internship - an agency should be able to help. This time last year, over the course of 8 weeks, we helped over a dozen grads with this kind of profile secure contract jobs in investment banks at an equivalent salary of around £30k plus.The market isn't quite so kind at the moment - but the opportunities are still there. Good luck.

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mat,  Mon 09 Jun 08

Hi Belinda,

What would you suggest someone like myself does? I have a degree in mathematics from Southampton University (1st class) and am finishing a Masters degree from one of the Universities mentioned above (pass with distinction). No relevant work experience. Struggling to find a temp/perm role in asset management. Thanks.

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viVas, Capital Markets,  Tue 10 Jun 08

well, i'd say that hte situation is really frustrating at the moment.. i started of in a European IB on placement in DCM in Jun 06, then progressed to junior analyst while finishing my 3rd year and had to leave in Feb when markets gone bad.. by then the grad programmes were closed so the only way was agencies. i am registered with a dozen i think and still strugling to even get at the door for an initial discussion with IBs.. so, having almost 2 years of front office experience for a cass graduate with expected (realistic) first class degree does not help me either.. I don't know guys, I am not giving up but it really seems like the options are VERY limited at the moment and msc (what about Tanaka by the way?) seems as the only option. Personally, after doing a purely finance Bsc degree and having worked for 2 years i DO NOT feel it will be hugely useful :(( at the analyst level you'll be asked to do little practical things to start contributing to the team and will be educated once again by your more experienced colleagues . .

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Michael, Student,  Tue 10 Jun 08

Hey ViVAs, were you at BNP?  I also did a placement at a European IB and have just graduated from Cass 2 weeks ago, I struggled to get into top-tier IBs but have found many smaller companies to be recruiting still. I have had a few offers from smaller boutique firms, I think it might be better to do this than a masters, especially if you already have  a Cass undergrad which is probably more detailed than most other MScs!

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Belinda Walmsley, HR & Recruitment,  Tue 10 Jun 08

Mat, I do think in this current market going directly would be your best bet - if you have no relevant experience. In past years, firms have gone back out to the marketplace with advertising to fill any outstanding grad jobs (unbelievably some people would give up a place to travel or indeed because they decided the career path they'd chosen wasn't really where they wanted to be) Obviously they won't be as many last minute places this year - but it's worth keeping your eye on grad websites like this one.

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